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pazu · Mar 23, 2007, 01:08 PM // 13:08

That's the first thing that came to my mind after I read the initial musing on GW2. I mean, the whole thing sounds like the bastard child of Lineage II and City of Heroes, spiced with a few novel ideas from WoW.

In other words, sounds like something NCSoft, not ArenaNet, would come up with. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. But in the off chance that I'm right, I just wonder what ANet is doing these days then...

lyra_song · Mar 23, 2007, 01:22 PM // 13:22

Conspiracy theory: There is no Anet. There is no Guild Wars. This is all an elaborate illusion to keep you distracted as aliens suck your brains.

I mean honestly what I see when i read postings about GW2 is Anet listens to their customers. If you hang out in Sardelac, these ideas have been floating around for a long time and a LOT of players want it.

How Anet will implement these ideas and still maintain the feel and core of Guild Wars is what remains to be seen.

DRGN · Mar 23, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Conspiracy theory: There is no Anet. There is no Guild Wars. This is all an elaborate illusion to keep you distracted as aliens suck your brains.

Shhhhh. Elvis and Bigfoot are scared of aliens.

After Factions was release, I DID think that ANet wasn't bothering to listen to their player base, because there were a lot of great ideas I saw suggested before its release, and basically none were implemented. I don't know if it was some kind of community backlash they received or if a light bulb suddenly came on, but they seemed to have listened a bit with Nightfall. They implemented a lot of the "little" things that went a long way.

Also, I doubt ANet is losing control of GW2 to NCSoft. ANet's reasoning that the game was going to become too bloated was pretty logical; I mean, if it kept going, and you got to 6 or 7 chapters, what new player would play if it meant you had to buy all of them and pay $40-50 per chapter just to be competitive in PvP?(Yes. I know the earlier chapters would have gone down a bit, but I don't feel like estimating inflation too :P I think they may have also gotten tired of designing similar campaigns with the same 6 classes and two new ones, and having to design extra skills for all the old classes and entire new skillsets for the new ones. Guess they figured it would be easier just to start from the ground up again rather than try and do it that way.

Mordakai · Mar 23, 2007, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Conspiration: Is that like anti-inspiration?

Seriously, Guild Wars (and Anet) is one of NCSofts biggest flagships.

Why would they mess with a good thing?

In Anet I trust.

Bryant Again · Mar 23, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Very bogus, 1/10.

anna · Mar 23, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Conspiration??

Shmanka · Mar 23, 2007, 03:56 PM // 15:56

I can't post anymore then what Lyra had already mentioned, Sardelac is basically not even considered serious to any degree as to what players somewhat want.

Sub Frost · Mar 23, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Yes its all a conspiracy... in fact i bet that GW stands for George W and was in fact a game developed by the amercian government to brain wash the world's youth into joining the military...

Seriously gw2 is two years away... at least wait for the beta and actually play the game before making stuff up.

Former Ruling · Mar 23, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20

I think its important to remember that we are A YEAR away from even the BETAS of this game...Yes the magazine makes the game sound like GWoW (Guild Wars of Warcraft), but that doesn't mean anything is final and we know nothing about the details of gameplay.

Like 100 threads popped up trying to make thoeries on GW2 based off of currect GW when we don't even know that the game will even play the same or use the same system for skills and such (the attribute system).

Anything the magazine says can only be taken as early ideas since the game is one year away from betas..and we know how much a game can change just from betas to release..much less before they even beta test it...

VanDamselx · Mar 23, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Have you bought PC Gamer and actually read it? I'm so tired of this speculative BS.

Enchanted Warrior · Mar 23, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

If you would like to see some sales figures...

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2007...11500823.shtml

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 23, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

You go right on ahead thinking that NCSoft has taken over the developement of GW from A-Net.

The ones who are REALLY behind all of the reworking of GW into GW2 will be glad to know that you're not onto us... uuhhh - them. I mean THEM!

The Ernada · Mar 23, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Geezus. This is ridiculous. Don't like some features of the upcoming game and suddenly everything is a conspiracy. I dont like everything but I don't make threads and act out as though I'm 12 years old. Get a freaking grip people.

pazu · Mar 23, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

Geez. You people have no sense of humor. If I was really serious about this, I wouldn't write "conspiracy theory" in the post title.

I just wanted to note how ArenaNet seems to be (positively) using ideas from other NC games, and other successful games on the market, and do that while riding in the crazy speculation wave.

Vinraith · Mar 23, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

It's far easier to believe that Anet is simply listening to the parts of the player base I vehemently disagree with, which may even be the majority (I don't really know). It's sad that GW2 seems to be going in such a substantially different direction, it's sad that some of the things I like most about GW are being limited or eliminated in the new game, and it's sad as a result that, barring a major change of design, my GW gaming will end with Eye of the North.

The Ernada · Mar 23, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by pazu

Geez. You people have no sense of humor. If I was really serious about this, I wouldn't write "conspiracy theory" in the post title.

I just wanted to note how ArenaNet seems to be (positively) using ideas from other NC games, and other successful games on the market, and do that while riding in the crazy speculation wave.

1. You fail at humour.

2. You're still speculating.

Lonesamurai · Mar 23, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

In Anet I trust.

/seconded

Oh and just read the article... best article I've read so far in 2007

lennymon · Mar 23, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

whats a constipation theory?

Seriously though... there ARE no truly new ideas in games. Anet is using its own engine and format (no monthly fees) and responding to players. It's not a conspiracy. GW2 is going to require some major work. While I love the instance based game that is GW1, and the pvp, and hell the pve... a crossover which somehow avoids the pitfalls of shall we say other MMO's in the persistent side would really make my day.

edit: on second thought it would make my year...

The Great Al · Mar 23, 2007, 08:10 PM // 20:10

conspiration is the funniest thing i've seen all day

milias · Mar 23, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by pazu

That's the first thing that came to my mind after I read the initial musing on GW2. I mean, the whole thing sounds like the bastard child of Lineage II and City of Heroes, spiced with a few novel ideas from WoW.

In other words, sounds like something NCSoft, not ArenaNet, would come up with. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. But in the off chance that I'm right, I just wonder what ANet is doing these days then...

We can speculate all day, but at the end of the day, that's all they are, speculations. No one, other than employees of ANet/NCSoft, really knows. Personally, I don't think this kind of discussion is very constructive and creates the perception of a problem that may not even exist.